Comments on: Timing of Link Credit for New Links http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/ Bill Hartzer is an internet marketing consultant based in the Dallas Fort Worth Texas area that provides website marketing and search engine optimization services. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:35:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: How Timing of Link Attribution Affects Syndication and Search Results : Blog Archive Andy Beard http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/comment-page-1/#comment-21 How Timing of Link Attribution Affects Syndication and Search Results : Blog Archive Andy Beard Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:30:17 +0000 http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/#comment-21 [...] read a couple of days ago an interesting post by Bill Hartzer regarding the time it takes for link attribution to take effect on an almost dead website, that receives a high pagerank inbound [...] [...] read a couple of days ago an interesting post by Bill Hartzer regarding the time it takes for link attribution to take effect on an almost dead website, that receives a high pagerank inbound [...]

]]> By: Bill Hartzer http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Bill Hartzer Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:17:55 +0000 http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/#comment-15 Mark, it's going to be difficult to determine specifically when Google spiders the page for several reasons. First, most of the pages I'm testing are crawled several times every day (sometimes hundreds of times every day) because of the new links that are going to them. So, once the spidering starts it sometimes spiders hundreds of pages and visits the robots.txt file numerous times. I don't believe the Google cache would help--unless I were to put a feed on the page and have that feed updated every 15 minutes. In that case I might be able to narrow it down to within an hour or two. Still, I think there's actually several crawls that are made, and I'm convinced that the Google crawler that caches pages actually comes at a different time than the crawler that visits for other purposes such as crawling for links, crawling for content, etc. But, keep in mind that just because we know that there's a 5 day lag time in between the time that a site get new links and the time that a site's rankings increases doesn't mean that we really can do anything with that information. I'm not sure if knowing that it takes 5 days to get link credit is useful or not. Sure, it's kind of neat to know, but really, how does it help us? Mark, it’s going to be difficult to determine specifically when Google spiders the page for several reasons. First, most of the pages I’m testing are crawled several times every day (sometimes hundreds of times every day) because of the new links that are going to them. So, once the spidering starts it sometimes spiders hundreds of pages and visits the robots.txt file numerous times.

I don’t believe the Google cache would help–unless I were to put a feed on the page and have that feed updated every 15 minutes. In that case I might be able to narrow it down to within an hour or two. Still, I think there’s actually several crawls that are made, and I’m convinced that the Google crawler that caches pages actually comes at a different time than the crawler that visits for other purposes such as crawling for links, crawling for content, etc.

But, keep in mind that just because we know that there’s a 5 day lag time in between the time that a site get new links and the time that a site’s rankings increases doesn’t mean that we really can do anything with that information. I’m not sure if knowing that it takes 5 days to get link credit is useful or not. Sure, it’s kind of neat to know, but really, how does it help us?

]]> By: Mark Barrera http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Mark Barrera Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:09:24 +0000 http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/#comment-14 I always love it when someone actually 'tests' the systems. One thing I was curious about it how often the page that the link is coming from is spidered as this would affect how long it takes to see the credit from the link. In your test of PR3 and PR4 links, you might want to check Google's cache of the page (that contains the link) every day to see when they actually crawl the page and then count from that date on to see when how long it takes for the link to get credit. I always love it when someone actually ‘tests’ the systems. One thing I was curious about it how often the page that the link is coming from is spidered as this would affect how long it takes to see the credit from the link.

In your test of PR3 and PR4 links, you might want to check Google’s cache of the page (that contains the link) every day to see when they actually crawl the page and then count from that date on to see when how long it takes for the link to get credit.

]]> By: Bill Hartzer http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Bill Hartzer Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:36:01 +0000 http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/#comment-13 That's a great point, CrankyDave. I've tested the timing with the higher PageRank links (PR9 and PR8) and some links that are PR5 and PR6. I'm not seeing a huge difference in time, though, at this point. The difference is about a day (an on-topic link from a PR9 or PR8 takes about 5 days and a PR5 or PR6 is either five or six days, sometimes a week). I'll do the test with a PR3 and a PR4 and will report back when I have some solid data. But, I suspect it's going to take about a week or more. We'll see. That’s a great point, CrankyDave. I’ve tested the timing with the higher PageRank links (PR9 and PR8) and some links that are PR5 and PR6. I’m not seeing a huge difference in time, though, at this point. The difference is about a day (an on-topic link from a PR9 or PR8 takes about 5 days and a PR5 or PR6 is either five or six days, sometimes a week).

I’ll do the test with a PR3 and a PR4 and will report back when I have some solid data. But, I suspect it’s going to take about a week or more. We’ll see.

]]> By: CrankyDave http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/comment-page-1/#comment-12 CrankyDave Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:45:50 +0000 http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/#comment-12 Very interesting. Out of curiosity, have you or do you plan on testing the same idea using links from pages with lower toolbar PR? I would tend to think that links from pages that would display a toolbar PR of say PR3 or PR4 might not be credited as quickly. Very interesting.

Out of curiosity, have you or do you plan on testing the same idea using links from pages with lower toolbar PR? I would tend to think that links from pages that would display a toolbar PR of say PR3 or PR4 might not be credited as quickly.

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